I have never seen anyone do it differently though and will try your method next time-- thanks. Use the weight of the truck to help,with a big sledge hammer. About Us - If I ever saw one of my mechanics heating an axle to remove a kingpin I'd fire his ass on the spot. I have done kingpins with a jack ,Mack trucks take about 30 minutes for both sides start to finish .On smaller vehicles like yours ,I have put a block between the axle and frame so you are not just compressing the spring . You may want to replace the zerk fitting on the king ping as well. Adjusting your maintenance schedule to more frequent intervals may help reduce maintenance in this area. When you have heated the bushing good and hot, stick a candle or some other form of wax against the joint between the pin and the bushing while they are still good and hot. Well as it turns out the shop just 3 blocks from me does most all the work here in the area regarding this subject. It looked like the mouth of the clamp would be big enough to fit over the spindle. After the king pin is out, use a hardened 7/16th bolt and tap out what's left of the wedge. so i heated then and chiesaled to get them to move. Both sides are right hand threads. I'm not sure if you understood the torch method. instead of rust and so forth in the i beam. In CDL School Now ZackaryMac said: When I tried to remove the pins on my Case 1818 version of a quick attach, I found out just how hard pins can rust into place. Privacy Statement - According to Meritor, it looks like the service limit for both the upper and lower kingpin bushing is .010 of clearance, measured at the ends of the pin. The heat is great as the # 1 step because it does 'something' to help 'unglue' two adjoining metal parts through either expansion or breaking down rust. 1 Year The hydraulic versions are slicker than snot on a door knob. Sorry to hear about your Dad. Stuck/frozen King Pin is my problem-finally figured it out An air hammer with a pointed bit or hammer bit worked good for me. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You are using an out of date browser. theres no need to pull the king pin to remove the old hard grease. Your only shot is to drive it out. good luck with your removal when it comes time. Kingpins are funny, out of the 2 sets I've done by hammer, one dropped out in 20 minutes beating with no prep work. Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport. An air chisel with the proper bit works great for both stubborn kingpins and perchpins. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -. The mechanical versions can be found on evilbay or craigslist time to time. I haven't pressed in the new bushings yet but the clamp will do that also. Why would someone refuse a special order? then that is a while you are at it type of job. Archive - Bruce. I give my express consent authorizing TruckersReport and its. i wonder if anyone else who has had a hard time getting them out had this problem. King Pin Removal Made Easy I needed to replace my king pins on my 53 F100. Bellmouthed I beams are more common to medium duty, door to door delivery trucks that regularly run overloaded and bounced off of curbs many times a day. Won't take much to melt the gummed up joint. If you wander a little with the torch the cold joint between the bushing and pin will keep the flame from eating the bushing for a little bit to help you. by qmcdugan Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:39 pm, Post i then reheated the i beam and i pounded them right out. Makes me wonder if FE stuff requires more kingpin work??? Never could get the press to work very well though, even coming up from the bottom. By logging into your account, you agree to our. If you do not have access to a KRW tool (or equivalent) it can be done with a BFH. by NM5K Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:40 pm, Post You change the crystalline structure by doing this, the parts are cooled under specific conditions during the forging process, and you effectively undue this process. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Who was it that replaced their kingpins while the axle was still under the truck? The first thing to remove is the retaining bolts---and 2 inches of crud and 50 years of grease! Zeirdt fittings can clog and not allow grease in. I'm all about trying to keep my grease gun handy. If it's stubborn , apply heat. good work clay. 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I sprayed them with penetrating fluid (to death), beat on them, used an air chisel with a pushing pin, used a torch for heat, beat some more, added a generous supply of cursing, till finally I used a bottle jack, and heat to remove them. At least one of four pins need to be drilled in my experience. Gotta do it, don't know diddly. Couldn't find the thread in the search engine. the metal bushings are the ones to buy. Kube. I am making it so it will keep the pin square with the press. LOL. I have seen axles fail as a result of heating, saw a whole wheel assembly W/ knuckle seperate from the truck when the axle bore split top to bottom through the draw pin hole. I once needed 20 tons of pressure to press out a kingpin on a 55 F 100. I will have to make a different one for each major change Ford made to the spindles as some of the angles and setbacks are different. Safe removal of stuck endpin - The Unofficial Martin Guitar Forum Basically creating a bottle jack press. Please register or login to enable Dark Mode. I did that to the '51 and it took almost a month to get it back. Administrator. My 2 cents take a grinder and grind around the out side of what is sticking out and then use the sledge no it. Then wire brush the area until the metal is clean. Then using a penetrating oil called p.b. S&w innovations makes a tool specifically designed to remove stuck draw wedge bolts that hold in the king pin. They can wear far enough that an oversize pin isn't enough to repair it and the beam has to be bored oversize and a repair sleeve pressed in. I beat on the top of the axle for about 20 minutes and with no luck and figured it was time for plan B. I ended up taking the axle off and with it upside down I could knock them out fairly easy. In fact I don't think any bus in our fleet now has had one. King Pin Removal Made Easy - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums It may not work if the pin has been glued in. a machine shop can do that unless you have the tool to do it with. That's the guy I was thinking of. It may not display this or other websites correctly. There are presses that can be used on the truck. Terms of Service - I had some years back, where no matter how hard I beat on them they would not move. My demolition hammer looks like a small jackhammer. Is it stuck in the axle or (spindle, probably unlikely) ? I don't have one and have scarred a couple up a bit. When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Resolve now to keep the kingpins faithfully greased for ever more so you don't ever have to do this again! We had one that was so stuck, we used 20tons worth of force to get the king pin to move. it should be done at so many miles when everything else is greased. 16,715. Is there any special steps in removing the old King pin bolts and installing the new? 20 ton press, prefered or BFH should do it. I use a propane torch to heat the crud after I've scraped off all I can. Then they use a hydraulic press to Tie one end of a strong cord around the pin and the other around a handle (piece of broomstick works well). The following errors occurred with your submission, 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks, Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks, Lightning, Harley-Davidson F-150, Roush F-150 & Saleen F-150, Conventional (Bumper Pull) Towing; Travel Trailers & Pop-ups, Toy Hauler Towing; Fifth Wheel & Bumper Pull, Flatbed, Car, Boat, Utility, Horse & Misc. using an oil squirt can and ran the solution down the top. Most likely you will have to get the spindle refitted with new bushings ( in the kit) and reamed to fit the king pins. I knew there had to be better way. You should get the 49-51 Manual, it covers these trucks much better. I got a 35 axle it's old and rusty. I have had good success getting on them gently with a chain vise grip tool. Powered by vBulletin Answer: The front axle center pivot pin or "king pin" on the 2N, 8N, and NAA tractors wears badly over the years from a lack of lube. 70 F-100 Sport Custom, 84 Camaro SportCoupe. Purple power works good on cutting old congealed grease, to me, it worked better than the carb/brake cleaner/laquer thinners I tried. Is it stuck in the axle or (spindle, probably unlikely) ? 2. The roll pin is generally a solid piece of metal that fits tightly into a machined hole. so doing this in your truck may be harder or easier depending on how you look at it. Gave it couple of good taps, did it again, waited 24 hours and then drove the pins right out. The last problem kingpins I tackled, I put an 8 inch 1/2 inch drive ratchet extension bar under it and dropped the jack until the weight of the truck was on it (but not all the way down) & let it sit 2 days after I soaked it with PB Blaster. I should have picked up a set then. King pin replacement instructions by sargentrs Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:34 pm Anybody got directions or a technical reference or something?