Rebuilt an 8n last week. "@type": "ImageObject", I'm not totally familiar with this engine but usually there is a seal (rear main or . "width": 200, "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=mf&th=207927", /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", loud. If it's dropping to zero at warm idle, and knocking, I would suspect bottom end bearing problems. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. Do you know of a path for the oil to take for it to get pushed to the bell housing instead of to the engine top? Then after it warmed up it started a knock that progressively got worse. Phone: (717) 896-7003. "@type": "Organization", 2023 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. "@type": "InteractionCounter", Have a couple of small hydraulic leaks, so before the long day began, I topped off the rear Hyd for the drag box operation. But, my 3 pt hitch won't work, so I think I have a blown hyd pump seal toowhich could be the high oil problem. . I fear that the oil isn't getting to top of engine and is just getting pushed back into bell housing. How is the oil pressure? }, Thanks for the response. You must log in or register to reply here. I shut it down immediately. As it turned out, it was a faulty connecting rod bolt that had snapped and was letting the piston slap the head and of course letting the rod knock. I think I messed up the valve lash..or could still have an injector problem.. anyhow, hyd fluid was spewing from the overflow tube on the rear lift FEL works fine although I didn't try a load on it, but the 3 pt. You must be somewhat mechanical if you split the tractor and replaced the rear crank seal. A lot of people advise to stay away from the Standard models. About 100 yds later, the engine started a load knocking. If you dropped a valve the motor would be skipping. The tractor started just fine. While driving it home I noticed oil coming from the starter and the engine knocking very . A lot of people advise to stay away from the Standard models. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Engines overview Perkins 2.5L 3-cyl diesel Continental 2.2L 4-cyl gasoline Page information Updated on May 12, 2022 Copyright 2023 TractorData LLC 2000-2023 - TractorData.com. Or it could be from very low oil pressure. Massey Ferguson Pre 100 Series 35 3-Cylinder Engine It may not display this or other websites correctly. Looking for help in diagnoses before I tear into this thing. It is not an uncommon topic here. "height": 57 None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. The knocking is probably the main bearings. Hello MK welcome to YT! Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. This probably should have been done before the tractor was split to replace the seal because there is a possibility you could be splitting it again to replace a worn crankshaft. How is the oil pressure? Those don't run much oil pressure when everything is good. Archived post. Dave, All Rights Reserved. Buyer Beware ! Thanks, Mike Krauter Do you know of a path for the oil to take for it to get pushed to the bell housing instead of to the engine top? TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 35 tractor information Engine only has about 40 hours on it. Complete engine overhaul, that will probably cost more than the tractor is worth, sorry to say. Hello, If it is a diesel (4cyl Standard) it could be a hosing injector. "@type": "Person", It started easily and noise seems to be. } The new rear seal needed to go into a new motor or overhaul. IF bearing has spun in Block.well $$$$ is involved with a line boreJust the Tip of the iceberg. Modern View Forum powered by phpBB 2001, 2005 phpBB Group. All rights reserved. New Holland TC 30, Kubota L3901DT, RK24 with FEL and mower, Massey Ferguson 35 and 2 Farmal Cubs I bought a TC30 but I did a lot of reading on the chinese tractors too. It did that the las Welcome! loud. IF bearing has spun in Block.. .well $$$$ is involved with a line boreJust the Tip of the iceberg. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. I'm on my way out now to try and find the problem thanks again! "@type": "Person", } John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. It is not an uncommon topic here. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", Nolt's Equipment. I ordered and replace rear seal, oil filter and oil. Just a few minutes into working, I backed into a stump and bent dragbox braces and stopped the engine while I attemped to straighten braces. How is the oil pressure? While driving it home I noticed oil coming from the starter and the engine knocking very . I noticed that the oil hadn't been changed in several years, it was very black, thick and some sludge. { There are a lot of knowledgeable people there. I've been to busy with thte military to get to it this week. Usually a rear seal dumping oil is caused from worn main bearings, that could be the knock. Those don't run much oil pressure when everything is good. "@type": "Organization", Drained the oil and put in new oil to proper levels. It may have had a sludge in it because someone filled the crankcase with STP oil treatment to quiet the knocking some. Listened to it with a scope I couldn't figure it out, only 240 hrs on it. ??? Some are even dealers but we won't hold that against them. Anyone want to give me a starting point? "@type": "ImageObject", You are using an out of date browser. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. Hi everyone ,i have just brought a 1957 MF 35 at a auction and what a little stunner it is,people said 4 cylinder models had some starting problems but what the heck i still brought it and glad i did,only thing is the engine has quite a distinctive knock on lower revs is this normal on the MF ,apart from that cant wait to try it, The Standard Motors diesel models are the least desired of the MF35 models. "interactionStatistic": { "image": { Cookie Notice "publisher": { Clearly there is an issue with the compression. when the hydraulic is lifted there is a severe knocking sound when deiving in second gear, after changing into top gear the knocking stops. "@type": "WebPage", "height": 57 I'm no expert but I would hazzard a guess that the previous owners were a little too generous with the ether to get it started. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. It is possible that it may just be a normal diesel sound for that engine. . Upon further investigation I noticed that the bell housing had a substantial amount of oil in it. 14 2.9K views 2 years ago Short clip 1965 MF 135 currently for sale. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" Thanks I'll add that to the list of things to check. Then after it warmed up it started a knock that progressively got worse. Never got any indication of overheating, had good oil pressure. "@type": "ImageObject", Oh, tractor is out of warranty, bought in April of 2003. To-35 knocking and low compression - Yesterday's Tractors I need a little help. "@context":"https://schema.org", Massey Ferguson 35 engine knock? - Yesterday's Tractors "headline":"To-35 knocking and low compression", "interactionStatistic": { The bill was more than the tractor is worth. Usually a rear seal dumping oil is caused from worn main bearings, that could be the knock. I deal with this problem every day. Motor oils are rated for different applications, and it's important..chim. "dateModified": "2022-10-05", "dateModified": "2023-01-07", Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. I have never heard of such a path. Am headed out right now to pull the valve cover and see if I dropped a valve. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Pull the valve cover? The tractor started just fine. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", "name": "Blanx" "image": { To-35 knocking and low compression - Yesterday's Tractors ", Our range includes; cylinder heads, gaskets, valves, engines, blocks, pistons, liners, piston rings, Seals, engine overhaul Kits, fuel pumps, oil pumps, crankshafts . Hello MK welcome to YT! "description":"Discussion of To-35 knocking and low compression in the Massey Harris & Massey Ferguson Tractors forum followed by comments. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. "datePublished": "2022-10-05", Rebuilt an 8n last week. This probably should have been done before the tractor was split to replace the seal because there is a possibility you could be splitting it again to replace a worn crankshaft. But if you have verified the rockers are not getting oil, that is an indication the rear main bearing has spun or been installed with the bearings reversed, blocking the oil metering holes to the top end. Have a Massey Ferguson 135 1965 model. Reddit, Inc. 2023. { "height": 57 135 knocking sound bernardmcnally Aug 17, 2011 Aug 17, 2011 / 135 knocking sound #1 B bernardmcnally New member Joined Aug 17, 2011 Messages 1 Tractor Massey Ferguson 135 Have a Massey Ferguson 135 1965 model. It may have had a sludge in it because someone filled the crankcase with STP oil treatment to quiet the knocking some. I too thought I had dropped a valve when the engine started to knock. Started just fine, but the loud knocking continues. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. You are using an out of date browser. I'd suggest you have a rod bearing going badmaybe. MASSEY FERGUSON 35 Tractors For Sale - 14 Listings - TractorHouse.com "text": "I need a little help. "datePublished": "2023-01-07", Sounds like you got a rod bearing going away, time for a engine rebuild. "userInteractionCount": 3 Or it could be from very low oil pressure. I have absolutely NO experience with diesels. }, O . Privacy Policy. }, For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It may have had a sludge in it because someone filled the crankcase with STP oil treatment to quiet the knocking some. Complete engine overhaul, that will probably cost more than the tractor is worth, sorry to say. 3 cylinder engine I'm working on on my Massey Ferguson 35 and - Reddit }, All parts come with an 18 months warranty. Have a FarmPro 2425 with Y385 engine. "publisher": { Normally sealing an oil leak has little to do with repairing a knocking sound in an engine. They don't send a lot of oil up top, just a drip from each rocker is all it needs. }. If my nose was any good, I'd be able tosmell the difference in the crankcase oil Ha! Hello, If it is a diesel (4cyl Standard) it could be a hosing injector. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I'm sorry I didn't say it's Gas. "name": "Mkrauter" }. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. I have no idea what your knowledge level is mechanical wise. Complete engine overhaul, that will probably cost more than the tractor is worth, sorry to say. No, I didn't run the engine long enough after the oil change to see any difference in the oil level again. Thanks for all the help guys. TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. This probably should have been done before the tractor was split to replace the seal because there is a possibility you could be splitting it again to replace a worn crankshaft. 3 cylinder engine I'm working on on my Massey Ferguson 35 and I'm wonder does anyone know what that knocking/spitting is and how to fix it? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Of course not. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", I ordered and replace rear seal, oil filter and oil. But if you have verified the rockers are not getting oil, that is an indication the rear main bearing has spun or been installed with the bearings reversed, blocking the oil metering holes to the top end. Knocking engine - Yesterday's Tractors when the hydraulic is lifted. Welcome! IF bearing has spun in Block.well $$$$ is involved with a line boreJust the Tip of the iceberg. Rebuilt an 8n last week. Perhaps someone else that has one will respond. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. Likely an engine bearing has went out, which if it is bad enough usually requires replacement or removal of the crank to regrind it. Serial Number: SNM214452. "author": { I have no idea what your knowledge level is mechanical wise. . to affraid of doing further damage to the engine by running it. They don't send a lot of oil up top, just a drip from each rocker is all it needs. . New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I have no idea what your knowledge level is mechanical wise. Overview Engine Transmission Dimensions Photos Tests Attachments 1960 - 1965 Utility tractor Series map: 135 1964-1975 35 41.2hp* TO-35 1954-1960 *Estimated engine power for comparison only. Loud Engine Knocking - TractorByNet I deal with this problem every day. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", The bill was more than the tractor is worth. OLY, I bought a TC30 but I did a lot of reading on the chinese tractors too. Most recently been grading and land clearing. You must be somewhat mechanical if you split the tractor and replaced the rear crank seal. Hi everyone ,i have just brought a 1957 MF 35 at a auction and what a little stunner it is,people said 4 cylinder models had some starting problems but what the heck i still brought it and glad i did,only thing is the engine has quite a distinctive knock on lower revs is this normal on the MF ,apart from that cant wait to try it. Do you know of a path for the oil to take for it to get pushed to the bell housing instead of to the engine top? Or it could be from very low oil pressure. I have seen Main Bearings on crankshafts spin..then the oil takes the path of least resistance Make, model of engine??? Likely an engine bearing has went out, which if it is bad enough usually requires replacement or removal of the crank to regrind it. (800) 853-2651Shop Now TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Browse a wide selection of new and used MASSEY FERGUSON 35 Tractors for sale near you at TractorHouse.com Login Dealer Login VIP Portal Register. "userInteractionCount": 6 "width": 200, will only come up a littebit under high rpm and doesn't want to lower at all. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. "width": 200, If it's dropping to zero at warm idle, and knocking, I would suspect bottom end bearing problems. ", "logo": { Is the hydraulic pump engine mounted, if the shaft seal leaks will it go into the oil sump ? They don't send a lot of oil up top, just a drip from each rocker is all it needs. 2023 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. The only path that I have ever seen or heard of is an improperly installed or worn out rear main seal. I deal with this problem every day. The new rear seal needed to go into a new motor or overhaul. I have never heard of such a path. It is possible that it may just be a normal diesel sound for that engine. But if you have verified the rockers are not getting oil, that is an indication the rear main bearing has spun or been installed with the bearings reversed, blocking the oil metering holes to the top end. "@type": "InteractionCounter", I assume this is a gas engine. Engine Horsepower: 35 HP. Thread Starter #10 . ", and our I've been posting under the Chinese tractor forum too and have had a lot of good ideas there. TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 35 tractor engine information Quote: I fear that the oil isn't getting to top of engine and is just getting pushed back into bell housing. I don't know what the availabilty of parts is for the Standard diesel. "headline":"Knocking engine", Newville, Pennsylvania 17241. "text": "I just purchased a T035 Massey Ferguson. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The knocking is probably the main bearings. I'm no expert but I would hazzard a guess that the previous owners were a little too generous with the ether to get it started. Upon further investigation I noticed that the bell housing had a substantial amount of oil in it. I'll post on the chinese board too. You must be somewhat mechanical if you split the tractor and replaced the rear crank seal. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. But just wondering what the knocking/spitting sound could be and if I put the pulley back on will it go away. Advertising . When an injector does not spray properly to the point of hosing, the knock sound it creates from the poor fuel detonation is very loud and alarming. Likely an engine bearing has went out, which if it is bad enough usually requires replacement or removal of the crank to regrind it. Today the knock was instant no heating required. } Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Do you think that they would stand behind it? Compare. It did that the last few times I started her. }, Massey Ferguson 135 tractor with engine knocking - YouTube I did a compression test and got 90psi 120psi 76psi 62 psi. First, you should post this in the Chinese Tractors Forum. Condition: Used. If it's dropping to zero at warm idle, and knocking, I would suspect bottom end bearing problems. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.